The 'Goodbye Girl' was mentioned at some point. I like that. Its a dramedy. A woman and her daughter fight for an apartment with a single guy. There's the sexual and emotional tension and lots of humor.
I remember us talk about a possible initial meeting of the two where they don't know the other is there and she grabs whatever weapon she can find ( a book? a hairbrush? a hairdryer? a high heeled shoe?) to defend herself and she actually gets few good hits in. This could create a lot of initial conflict. Maybe he has never lost a fight before and he just got beat up by a girl- a girl her now has to live with.
Aw man, I put up a whole outline and it didn't post. Lemme just give the cliff notes of my vision of the pilot.
JOHN wakes up, does a morning routine, hops in the shower, and JANE comes home with her bags, headphones on, and (free spirit that she is) dances around the house without any pants on before walking into the bathroom.
Kinda cliche, but just wanted to put my ideas in the pool to fuel the ideas.
I like the idea of him coming home with another woman, and the three of them ending up in bed. She flips out. He tries to go with it. the woman he just brought home is put off as well and asks if this is his wife. and he can reply with something along the lines of "No, my wife is at my house."
Maybe it doesn't mesh with his character that well, i don't know. The other thing is you could make the other woman a prostitute. I don't know if it will make him unlikable about but the guy is going through a divorce, and just lost his job. Maybe he needs a little pick me up.
If we go with her attacking him thinking he is an intruder, she should straight up stab him or at least go at him with a baseball bat. He would have a legit reason to hate her.
I like the idea of a 3rd person in the cute meet set up. it could give us some great challenges for great quipped dialogue.
I think their reason for staying must be more emotionally connected to what is happening to both of them. Not really about a lease. leases get broken all the time and do they really know no one else they could go to? What if they just have to stand their ground and not loose one more thing. This apartment no matter how childish or petty it might be is the last thing either of the control and they have been pushed to their limit on things taken away from them. Makes for a much more interesting conflict than a lease or even a financial issue.
I totally agree with David- they should be fighting but fighting to keep something they consider to be theirs. So they are staying out of stubbornness.
I was thinking maybe for a story he only has one thing from his old life still left and it could be like a goldfish and she ends up killing it accidentally and he's furious but realizes it was probably good thing to get rid of everything from his old life to he can start anew.
right on Christina. We all know conflict drives the story and especially in TV. Taking something like killing someones fish could have a hilarious turn by how we play it out and keep increasing the stakes. Each character keeps topping the other in frustrating the other. Maybe each episode is about another conflict between them. Also finding ways to keep some sexual tension there too, maybe it comes out in how they handle things.
I like what Ed wrote about him coming home with the girl and being thrown in that terribly awkward situation, I think it is a great way to start off the show and it kinda starts the show out with a bang which I think is a great way to be introduced to these two characters.
I also liked what someone said in class about them fighting for the bed, I think that would be a great little adition to the overall theme of the show and it doesn't have to be in every episode but I think it would be funny to see how and why one character gets the bed over the other maybe at the end of the episodes like a bookend and also I think it would be cool if on the final episode they are both laying in the bed together just sharing it, maybe it can tie into where the two are at that last moment in the show.
This might be a little early to bring it up, but Josh's ideas made me think about timeline. What period of time do you guys think should these seven episodes go over?
Because I think that would have a lot of influence on the stories and the "season finale". If it's seven episodes that happen back to back, almost like seven scenes right after another it might be kind of interesting to see how two people deal with an awkward situation with worrying less about why they can't just go somewhere else. It might be more sit-com that way, but could be a lot of fun. Or if we spanned it out over a couple of months, we could get more into character and the drama of why they need to stay at that apartment in particular and can't go anywhere else.
And Josh, I really like the idea of bookending it with the bed. It seems like the bed could cause a lot of conflict for the two of them throughout the show and would be interesting to see how they lay in it at the beginning of the show versus at the end of the season. Kind of like LOST with Jack's eye, totally different from beginning to the end.
I was thinking about a time line too Lauren! At first I was thinking we could do a seven day thing. Just like every episode is a day of the week. I think the the idea of all episodes making up one moment is interesting, but would ultimately limit the growth of our character's relationship.
Good point, Christina, it would probably limit it a lot to just see the beginning of the conflict. There's this Japanese anime show, K-ON, and it's first season was only 13, 22 minute episodes, but it covered almost three years. Even though it was really spaced out, you got to know the characters well because each episode was about the most important moments for them. We could space things out and only write the scenes in our episodes that are the most vital to the relationship of our characters and the most pivotal points in their current struggles.
I agree with Christina that every episode could be set a week a part or so as that would give us more options on how to tell and wrap it up in a satisfying way.
The 'Goodbye Girl' was mentioned at some point. I like that. Its a dramedy. A woman and her daughter fight for an apartment with a single guy. There's the sexual and emotional tension and lots of humor.
ReplyDeleteI remember us talk about a possible initial meeting of the two where they don't know the other is there and she grabs whatever weapon she can find ( a book? a hairbrush? a hairdryer? a high heeled shoe?) to defend herself and she actually gets few good hits in. This could create a lot of initial conflict. Maybe he has never lost a fight before and he just got beat up by a girl- a girl her now has to live with.
ReplyDeleteEspecially if he crawls into bed in the middle of the night next to her.
ReplyDeleteAw man, I put up a whole outline and it didn't post. Lemme just give the cliff notes of my vision of the pilot.
ReplyDeleteJOHN wakes up, does a morning routine, hops in the shower, and JANE comes home with her bags, headphones on, and (free spirit that she is) dances around the house without any pants on before walking into the bathroom.
Kinda cliche, but just wanted to put my ideas in the pool to fuel the ideas.
I like the idea of him coming home with another woman, and the three of them ending up in bed. She flips out. He tries to go with it. the woman he just brought home is put off as well and asks if this is his wife. and he can reply with something along the lines of "No, my wife is at my house."
ReplyDeleteMaybe it doesn't mesh with his character that well, i don't know. The other thing is you could make the other woman a prostitute. I don't know if it will make him unlikable about but the guy is going through a divorce, and just lost his job. Maybe he needs a little pick me up.
If we go with her attacking him thinking he is an intruder, she should straight up stab him or at least go at him with a baseball bat. He would have a legit reason to hate her.
I like the idea of a 3rd person in the cute meet set up. it could give us some great challenges for great quipped dialogue.
ReplyDeleteI think their reason for staying must be more emotionally connected to what is happening to both of them. Not really about a lease. leases get broken all the time and do they really know no one else they could go to? What if they just have to stand their ground and not loose one more thing. This apartment no matter how childish or petty it might be is the last thing either of the control and they have been pushed to their limit on things taken away from them. Makes for a much more interesting conflict than a lease or even a financial issue.
I totally agree with David- they should be fighting but fighting to keep something they consider to be theirs. So they are staying out of stubbornness.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking maybe for a story he only has one thing from his old life still left and it could be like a goldfish and she ends up killing it accidentally and he's furious but realizes it was probably good thing to get rid of everything from his old life to he can start anew.
right on Christina. We all know conflict drives the story and especially in TV. Taking something like killing someones fish could have a hilarious turn by how we play it out and keep increasing the stakes. Each character keeps topping the other in frustrating the other. Maybe each episode is about another conflict between them. Also finding ways to keep some sexual tension there too, maybe it comes out in how they handle things.
ReplyDeleteI like what Ed wrote about him coming home with the girl and being thrown in that terribly awkward situation, I think it is a great way to start off the show and it kinda starts the show out with a bang which I think is a great way to be introduced to these two characters.
ReplyDeleteI also liked what someone said in class about them fighting for the bed, I think that would be a great little adition to the overall theme of the show and it doesn't have to be in every episode but I think it would be funny to see how and why one character gets the bed over the other maybe at the end of the episodes like a bookend and also I think it would be cool if on the final episode they are both laying in the bed together just sharing it, maybe it can tie into where the two are at that last moment in the show.
This might be a little early to bring it up, but Josh's ideas made me think about timeline. What period of time do you guys think should these seven episodes go over?
ReplyDeleteBecause I think that would have a lot of influence on the stories and the "season finale". If it's seven episodes that happen back to back, almost like seven scenes right after another it might be kind of interesting to see how two people deal with an awkward situation with worrying less about why they can't just go somewhere else. It might be more sit-com that way, but could be a lot of fun. Or if we spanned it out over a couple of months, we could get more into character and the drama of why they need to stay at that apartment in particular and can't go anywhere else.
And Josh, I really like the idea of bookending it with the bed. It seems like the bed could cause a lot of conflict for the two of them throughout the show and would be interesting to see how they lay in it at the beginning of the show versus at the end of the season. Kind of like LOST with Jack's eye, totally different from beginning to the end.
I was thinking about a time line too Lauren! At first I was thinking we could do a seven day thing. Just like every episode is a day of the week. I think the the idea of all episodes making up one moment is interesting, but would ultimately limit the growth of our character's relationship.
ReplyDeleteGood point, Christina, it would probably limit it a lot to just see the beginning of the conflict. There's this Japanese anime show, K-ON, and it's first season was only 13, 22 minute episodes, but it covered almost three years. Even though it was really spaced out, you got to know the characters well because each episode was about the most important moments for them. We could space things out and only write the scenes in our episodes that are the most vital to the relationship of our characters and the most pivotal points in their current struggles.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Christina that every episode could be set a week a part or so as that would give us more options on how to tell and wrap it up in a satisfying way.
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